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Post by Ronin on Dec 12, 2007 18:34:32 GMT -8
it is on the way over as we speak.
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Post by Brad the Impaler on Dec 12, 2007 18:38:09 GMT -8
Now please go on about the library part.
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Post by Ronin on Dec 12, 2007 18:44:36 GMT -8
its a nice quite place i can study without distractions. distractions like video games.
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Post by Brad the Impaler on Dec 12, 2007 18:47:38 GMT -8
Tell me when you're gonna go next and I'll go too, and help you study. I could fill many libraries with my knowledge.
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Post by Ronin on Dec 12, 2007 18:48:36 GMT -8
tomorrow. 6pm
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Post by Brad the Impaler on Dec 12, 2007 18:50:56 GMT -8
which library?
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Post by Ronin on Dec 12, 2007 19:13:46 GMT -8
well now thats the mystery. look in your hardy boys section of your internal library and solve this mystery.
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Post by Brad the Impaler on Dec 12, 2007 19:23:42 GMT -8
Haha, I think I've got it!
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Post by Ronin on Dec 16, 2007 11:29:04 GMT -8
We have had this conversation a couple times before, and I disagree. Nobody pays big money for fun jobs. It wouldn't be a job if it was fun. People don't become doctors because they enjoy being around sick people. They like money. Ofcourse, they would never admit that, they would give an excuse like "I like helping people." Jobs can be 2 out the the following 3 things, but never all 3; fun easy to get well paying you have much to learn about the world young man. if you don't like what you are doing you won't last. you can sell out for money but you will be left feeling empty and it will eat at you every day. Why not go to school for something you will actually enjoy doing? and i disagree with the doctors comment. believe it or not there are people out there who like to help people not everyone is selfish. what about doctors in medical research? they have to do the same amount of schooling but instead of going into practice where the money is they go into research where the money is not nearly as good. why is this? its because they don't care as much about money has helping people.
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Post by Brad the Impaler on Dec 16, 2007 11:50:58 GMT -8
Fisrt of all, you will have to prove you statement about level of education being the same, and salaries being vastly different. Secondly, if it is true, a likely reason is that the researchers don't want to be working directly with the public, which may be a major thing for them.
So, I take it that you are really enjoying your classes then, huh Chris? Haha, well, come back after two years and then we'll talk (if you last that long).
You can't honestly tell me that when somebody is deciding to go into Medical school, that the first thing on their minds is helping people, don't be naive. People get jobs to live comfortably, that requires money. Don't bother throwing all this "you have to enjoy what you do" crap, because good jobs like that don't exist. Now I don't mean to say that people hate their job, its just that no good jobs are FUN. Jobs are tolerable, thats it. Keep in mind I said GOOD jobs like that don't exist. That refers to well paying, and decent working conditions.
You have a lot to learn Chris. If filming is as good of a job as Justin says, then I will quit engineering right now and enroll. You have to work hard for things to pay off. Im sure the "fun" "easy to get" "well paying" triangle holds up quite well actually.
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Post by Ronin on Dec 16, 2007 13:10:05 GMT -8
your triangle is flawed. if you have interest in your career choice it should be enjoyable to go to work not just tolerable. can you really see yourself going to work every day to a job you don't enjoy? would you not take pride in your work? or is it all about the money? now money is a big attraction when it comes to picking your job but there are lots of well paying jobs out there so why not pick one that interests you? maybe you rushed into things a little to fast. i just recently found a career choice that i have interest. it took a few years and some trail and error to get here but it was worth it rather then following the first choice i made which i found out i hated and making a living off of it. if you don't enjoy what you do then your not doing the right thing. and to say that everyone hates there jobs and is only in it for the money may be true for some people and i feel sorry for them. because taking the time to choose a career you enjoy will make your life much better.
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Post by Brad the Impaler on Dec 16, 2007 13:18:08 GMT -8
Hahaha, you'll be eating those words in a 4 or 5 years (assuming you make it all the way). So, Chris. what do you like so much about your career choice? Please enlighten me. There's nothing about it you could actually LIKE. And there's no way to know that until you take some advanced classes. I truly think you are SEVERELY disillusioned of how fun your job is gonna be. Its so funny that all I can do is laugh, and say..... wait and see. Bottom line, JOBS ARE NOT FUN, if they were they would not be JOBS. Being forced to do shit is not FUN. I don't know what else to say, I am absolutley speechless that you could think otherwise. Obviously my statements aren't gonna get through, so just wait and see.
But, as I said earlier, please enlighten me about what you like so much about your course.
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Post by Ronin on Dec 16, 2007 13:46:36 GMT -8
Being forced to do shit is not FUN. But, as I said earlier, please enlighten me about what you like so much about your course. well there is your problem. you have a choice, why not choose something that you enjoy? i have been in the working world for about 5 years now, not that long in the long run but my from one job i have been around most of the top business men that run this city. maybe even your future boss. after discussions with them and hearing what they have to say it leads me to believe you are going to be bitter about life if you continue to think this way. im trying to teach you a valuable life lesson but you are taking it as an attack. now what do i like about my course? the end result is a career that i will enjoy. when i think about it do i want to be a lawyer and defend or prosecute? people not really. how about a doctor and i can treat sick people, not for me. what about a construction worker? well that is a little interesting but not really looking forward to the working conditions, i know i'll be a part of designing the structures that they will build! there that will not only give me good money but it is in a field of interest for me.
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Post by Brad the Impaler on Dec 16, 2007 14:00:05 GMT -8
The only things you actually mentioned are "field of interest for me" (could you be any more vague?), good money (doesn't count since we're not taking that into account), and designing structures (you have know idea what goes into that, so you cannot comment on enjoying it)
How do you know you'll enjoy your career? There's no way to know that. Therefore, from all you said, you have not proved anything. You haven't even given a legitimate reason why this career is of such interest to you.
Im not taking these statements as attacks, Im just amazed that you believe what you're saying.
I enjoyed Graphics class in highschool, so why don't I go into that? Because its not a good field. A lot of people go into that because it generally easy, and then its tough to find jobs, and you'll find the pay is not very good nor is it consistent. Sure I could find something that is less annoying than other jobs, so why don't I go into those? Because they suck. I don't want to be one of the many people that graduate from crappy course and then can't find a decent job in their field. Thats why Im in engineering, jobs are generally easy to find almost anywhere, they pay well (with time), and they won't suck too much when you're actually doing them (depending on what area you get into).
Now don't think Im gonna hate my job when I get it, since there's no way to know that. But obviously doing lots of homework is not fun, and thats the whole point I've been trying to make. Doing all the homework now definitely sucks, but it will pay off in the end.
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Post by Ronin on Dec 16, 2007 14:37:22 GMT -8
But obviously doing lots of homework is not fun, and thats the whole point I've been trying to make. Doing all the homework now definitely sucks, but it will pay off in the end. this is the first time you mentioned anything about homework of course homework sucks but i don't see why you are complaining about it so much. you are getting closer to admitting that you will enjoy your job. going from everyone hates there jobs to they can tolerate it now to it won't suck as bad. just that one more step and say it. "i will enjoy may career" you'll feel better. i think you are just bitter at this point angry at school. but after this little tantrum you will realize i'm right. of course you will never admit that. when you are doing something that you have interest in it is enjoyable. thats how it is with me. in my courses at the con college i quickly realized i had no interest in the field i was entering so doing the work was like torture. but now working towards something i have interest in makes it enjoyable. enough said, if you still don't understand then i suggest a backpacking trip to Europe for a year. who knows maybe you'll learn a few life lessons.
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